From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 11:54 AM
51
Rights are a privilege. 
From: tunnel rat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 11:55 AM
52
Right to bear cybernetic arms. 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 11:56 AM
53
holy shit they're not just cybernetic arms, but cybernetic BEAR arms?!?! 
From: KNW
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 11:56 AM
54
What about arming cybernetic bears? 
From: tunnel rat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 11:56 AM
55
Shardik Enterprises is already on that. 
From: Woundtootight hunts for the meat and the horns
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 11:57 AM
56
Rights are a privilege.


No.

Self defense is a right.

Driving a car is a priviledge.

To work toward happiness is a right.

Drinking is a priviledge. 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:00 PM
57
The two privileges you listed don't require making an assload of money. 
From: Wander is the King of the Moon
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:02 PM
58
birdbrain said:

The two privileges you listed don't require making an assload of money.


Who told you about my cybernetic ass? 
From: masterblaster this fork is just slowing me down
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:02 PM
59
bFTE said:

"Helping the poor" is just a thinly veiled euphemism for "Socialism."

NOT ON MY WATCH, LIBTARDS!


lol 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:03 PM
60
Wander said:

Who told you about my cybernetic ass?

The blinking LED lights gave it away. 
From: KNW
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:04 PM
61
Don't let the TMI thread know about that cybutt, it'll be the end of the world as we know it. 
From: masterblaster this fork is just slowing me down
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:06 PM
62
The more people are covered, the cheaper things will be.

If we can focus more on preventitive care, that'll lower costs too. 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:07 PM
63
Prevent it by getting a job, hippie. 
From: M00B a77 - platers gonna plate
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:11 PM
64
R AN s O ME said:

Population control and free abortions.


The first step. 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:12 PM
65
m00b, go find that ruler of the world list
i forget step 2 
From: KNW
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:14 PM
66
Free abortions for some, miniature American flags for the others!
 
From: M00B a77 - platers gonna plate
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:18 PM
67
birdbrain said:

m00b, go find that ruler of the world list
i forget step 2


M00B a77 said:

1. Population control through limitation and temporary childbirth moratorium.
2. Public Transportation on a international, national, regional and local level.
3. Limit car usage significantly. (No cars in major cities except for cabs and delivery/shipping, all commercial vehicles must be converted to "green" vehicles by 2015).
4. Legalization and regulation of all drugs.
5. Abolish 3rd Strike laws for theft and other non violent crimes.
6. Repeal all religiously motivated laws (Gay marriage Prevention, Liquor Laws, etc.)
7. Reform farming and agricultural practices.
8. Government funded education (Everybody goes to school, nobody pays out of pocket)
9. Government funded healthcaree (Everybody gets service, nobody pays out of pocket)
10. Health level credits/penalties (Exercise and be as healthy as your body allows you or get taxed at a higher rate).
 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:19 PM
68
right, right.
Scratch all of that.
What we're doing works pretty well, right? 
From: Ransome is rad. He is so rad.
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:19 PM
69
The sins of our fathers indeed. 
From: KNW
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:19 PM
70
What kinda conspiracy site did you get that from? 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:19 PM
71
this sweet place called fazed 
From: KNW
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:22 PM
72
Gee, too bad I disagree with 1, some of 3, most of 4, and all of 5. 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:23 PM
73
you'll be the first against the wall 
From: D rock 007 thinks boobs are like bird feathers
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:34 PM
74
1. Population control through limitation and temporary childbirth moratorium.
2. Public Transportation on a international, national, regional and local level.
3. Limit car usage significantly. (No cars in major cities except for cabs and delivery/shipping, all commercial vehicles must be converted to "green" vehicles by 2015).
4. Legalization and regulation of all drugs.
5. Abolish 3rd Strike laws for theft and other non violent crimes.
6. Repeal all religiously motivated laws (Gay marriage Prevention, Liquor Laws, etc.)
7. Reform farming and agricultural practices.
8. Government funded education (Everybody goes to school, nobody pays out of pocket)
9. Government funded healthcaree (Everybody gets service, nobody pays out of pocket)
10. Health level credits/penalties (Exercise and be as healthy as your body allows you or get taxed at a higher rate).


Happy fucking magic fascist land. 
From: KNW
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:35 PM
75
I'm going to send you a dictionary, so someone can read to you the difference between fascism and socialism... 
From: D rock 007 thinks boobs are like bird feathers
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:37 PM
76
1. Population control through limitation and temporary childbirth moratorium.


Fascism. 
From: KNW
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:37 PM
77
So China is fascist now. Gotcha. 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:38 PM
78
uh, DUH. Do YOU see them waving american flags? 
From: D rock 007 thinks boobs are like bird feathers
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:39 PM
79
So China is fascist now. Gotcha.


Fascist communist yes very much so. 
From: Wander is the King of the Moon
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:39 PM
80
Childbirth laws aren't fascist... 
From: bFTE feels a little different than he felt before
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:40 PM
81
China has some fascist notions and tendencies, but can't really be considered a fascist government.

Not in the same way that North Korea is fascist. 
From: Wander is the King of the Moon
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:40 PM
82
Hell, why not call them marxist socialists as well, too? Throw nazis in there for good measure and... I dunno, papists? Whatever gets you in a really good angry froth. 
From: KNW
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:40 PM
83
Fascist communist

Do you even read the stuff you say?
That makes about as much sense as 'solar powered flashlight' and 'Moonpie follows up' 
From: D rock 007 thinks boobs are like bird feathers
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:42 PM
84
Fascist communist


They aren't mutually exclusive. 
From: Wander is the King of the Moon
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:42 PM
85
D rock 007 said:

They aren't mutually exclusive.


Uh, yeah, they are. Fascists are anti-communists. 
From: masterblaster this fork is just slowing me down
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:43 PM
86
LOUD NOISES 
From: D rock 007 thinks boobs are like bird feathers
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:43 PM
87
Uh, yeah, they are. Fascists are anti-communists.


Taking it to the politics thread...

/off topic 
From: birdbrain dinosaurhat
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:44 PM
88
masterblaster said:

What do you think?

is it another step closer to making this country a socialist state?

or a brilliant policy that will improve businesses financial health?
(haha)

Discuss!

WELL HEY THERE THREAD CREATOR
i sure do thing health care for everyone would be a lot radder than having to choose between homelessness and going to the doctor!
also, competition so private insurance companies and shit would have to make things cheaper? Neato.

ixnay on the ascismfay 
From: Ransome is rad. He is so rad.
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:48 PM
89
1000 BABIES APIECE 
From: masterblaster this fork is just slowing me down
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 12:52 PM
90
HEY YO SELF GURL

Competition is good.
Costs are crippling businesses.
The whole thing sounds good.
Hopefully the implimentation goes well. 
From: blitzd is out of wit, and whiskey
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:01 PM
91
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE 
From: MFLS is a bad acronym
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:03 PM
92
BUZ WHATS ABOUT DA COMMOONISTS?! 
From: blitzd is out of wit, and whiskey
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:03 PM
93
AMURKA FUCK YEAH! 
From: MFLS is a bad acronym
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:05 PM
94
GOD BLESS 
From: bFTE feels a little different than he felt before
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:12 PM
95
I don't usually like providing links, but just to get things moving (hopefully):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_reform_in_the_United_States

And for a little bit of history/comparison:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_reform_in_the_United_States_presidentia l_election,_2008 
From: masterblaster this fork is just slowing me down
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:21 PM
96
I don't usually like providing links,


From: jiffeee joined a gym solely to watch old guys shower
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:21 PM
97
OMG IS IT FREE?

no, someone has to pay for it. We will all pay for it, one way or another.

People need to understand that Just because Americans are uninsured doesn't mean they can't receive health care. Hospitals provide services to those who don't have insurance, and it is illegal to refuse emergency medical service because of a lack of insurance.

And to put it bluntly, healthy people who take care of themselves will have to pay for the burden of those who smoke, drinks, do drugs, obese, etc.

If this goes thru...enjoy those wait times to see a doctor. 
From: Zero
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:24 PM
98
And to put it bluntly, healthy people who take care of themselves will have to pay for the burden of those who smoke, drinks, do drugs, obese, etc.


What on earth makes you think that this doesn't happen already? 
From: jiffeee joined a gym solely to watch old guys shower
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:24 PM
99
you think that will change with this new care system? 
From: Zero
 
Date: 7/31/09 @ 1:27 PM
(more) 100
Of course not. You're presenting it in future tense as if our current system isn't affected in the very same way. 
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