entropic said:
Yea, I've got to be a dick about this one but... could someone tell me what gramar is?
Yea, I've got to be a dick about this one but... could someone tell me what gramar is?
Well, when the appeal of certain schools is that they provide a good education over a broad area, not just the discipline you focus on, gramar is something that isn't in the curriculum even then.
he has ribbing me for my spelling of "grammar"...
Did you pay for that education FW?
Yeah, I know. I was ribbing you for the idea that being an Econ major excuses not knowing grammar/spelling.
Anyway, 'tis the football thread, no? Let's head back to football discussions.
So, for the SEC/Pac-10 debate, we have LSU@UW, ASU@UGa, and UCLA@Tenn. I'm thinking SEC 3, Pac-10 0?
Though I'm a bit loathe to hang too much confidence on the Vols right now.
Also, something random that really should be off-season conversation came up the other day: who's got the best rivalry names? I think Georgia, with the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry, the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, and Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate.
Anyway, 'tis the football thread, no? Let's head back to football discussions.
So, for the SEC/Pac-10 debate, we have LSU@UW, ASU@UGa, and UCLA@Tenn. I'm thinking SEC 3, Pac-10 0?
Though I'm a bit loathe to hang too much confidence on the Vols right now.
Also, something random that really should be off-season conversation came up the other day: who's got the best rivalry names? I think Georgia, with the Deep South's Oldest Rivalry, the World's Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party, and Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate.
Did you pay for that education FW
yes.
Yeah, I know.
sure.......
So, for the SEC/Pac-10 debate, we have LSU@UW, ASU@UGa, and UCLA@Tenn. I'm thinking SEC 3, Pac-10 0?
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/ncfnation?tag=conference%20rank%20090807
PAC-10 is at the top of the second tier. SEC and Big 12 are so far ahead of everyone else i dont think there is really any debate, nor do any of the espn writers...
From: paniero not only does he sound like the bread shop near me, but he is right
Date: 8/10/09 @ 5:42 PM
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well, that list is clearly written by a drunk 2 year old with Downs Syndrome if the ACC and Big East are somehow ranked worse then the big 10 which is clearly the worst out of the "Big 6"
reread the link. its 7 espn writers lists. i wasn't pointing to any one over another. there is a general consensus if you read each one though....
Yes, because the Big East has powerhouses such as West Virginia and..... uh..... yea.
From: paniero not only does he sound like the bread shop near me, but he is right
Date: 8/11/09 @ 2:01 PM
109
put OSU and WVU or UC on a neutral field and its a toss up
big 10 is severely overrated every year
big 10 is severely overrated every year
Sure, put OSU on the field vs. anyone and it's a toss up, but OSU isn't the entire conference. I'm not saying the big 10 ISN'T overrated, but I would say they are better than the big east.
From: Dr Funk N Stein sounds like a 3 year old with a P.h.D. in Spaniards
Date: 8/11/09 @ 2:57 PM
111
sam bradford still sucks dick.
/thread
/thread
As a BCS hater, but still objective, How is that the Big East gets an Automatic Bid, when they don't have one single team in the top 25?
The Mountain West has 3
The SEC has what 6?
Yet, Cinci or WV or Rutgers, WTF RUTGERS, will get to take a spot away from Texas, or Bama, or OSU, or even Utah or TCU. Three teams went undefeated last year and yet Cinci who played Akron and Marshall!!!! gets in at 11-3. I hate a system that guarantees anyone something before they earn it.
The Mountain West has 3
The SEC has what 6?
Yet, Cinci or WV or Rutgers, WTF RUTGERS, will get to take a spot away from Texas, or Bama, or OSU, or even Utah or TCU. Three teams went undefeated last year and yet Cinci who played Akron and Marshall!!!! gets in at 11-3. I hate a system that guarantees anyone something before they earn it.
Well you better stay out of the political thread.
MICHIGAN STATE! WOOT!
They are gonna WAIL on some people.
Dantoni is building a machine in East Lansing.
They are gonna WAIL on some people.
Dantoni is building a machine in East Lansing.
Yeah, i avoid that like the plague, read it once or twice and haven't ventured back.
K-STATE!!!!!
I love that college football season is ramping up!
Your team sucks.
i think this is gonna be our turn-around year.
/Texas A&M
//has been saying so for the past 6 years
///hasn't believed it once
/Texas A&M
//has been saying so for the past 6 years
///hasn't believed it once
That. Is. Awesome.
So i just learned about sprint football...
looks 10x more bad ass than regular fat fuck football...
bodies flying everywhere, I gotta watch a game sometime
looks 10x more bad ass than regular fat fuck football...
bodies flying everywhere, I gotta watch a game sometime
interesting ESPN Insider article.
from the mouth of guys who matter Notre dame is the most overrated program. The return to greatness is never going to happen. sorry.
from the mouth of guys who matter Notre dame is the most overrated program. The return to greatness is never going to happen. sorry.
Let the coaches, writers and computers have their polls. But don't players have opinions? Turns out they do.
This spring, ESPN The Magazine asked 85 FBS players about drugs, playoffs, refs, gay teammates and much more. In exchange for honesty, we promised not to reveal any names or schools -- only secrets.
Who will win the 2009 Heisman trophy?
When the ballots were counted, it was a landslide -- for Colt McCoy. The Texas QB received 42 votes, followed by Florida QB Tim Tebow (20) and Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford (9). Four others were named more than once: USC safety Taylor Mays (4), Cal RB Jahvid Best (3), Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant (2) and Ole Miss QB Jevan Snead (2).
What player would you pay to watch?
Of 19 players, one came up most often: Tebow, who pulled in 35 percent of the votes and was the only QB among the top three. The top five vote-getters: Tebow (30), Tennessee safety Eric Berry (9), OSU's Bryant (7), Texas' McCoy (5) and Florida LB Brandon Spikes (5).
To see much more -- who players think will win the BCS title, the most overrated and under programs, whether most players think one of their teammates is gay, views on drug use, partying and more -- you must be an ESPN Insider. Insider
Who will win the BCS title in January 2010?
Nearly half (40) of the respondents said the Gators will help Tebow win a third BCS title. The other faves: Texas (23), Oklahoma (10), USC (9).
What is the nation's best program?
By a whisker players named Florida 32-31 over USC. But by the same thin margin, Trojans' boss Pete Carroll was the top pick when players were asked who the smartest coach is. No. 2? Florida's Urban Meyer.
What is the nation's most overrated program?
More than half of those surveyed (46) named Notre Dame or Ohio State. And the winner, if that's the right word, is -- OSU, 24 to 22. Uh, congratulations, Coach Tressel!
Do any players on your team take steroids or other PEDs?
Of those surveyed, 55 percent said they know of at least one teammate taking PEDs; among non-BCS players, 53 percent answered yes; 58 percent of BCS players said yes.
This spring, ESPN The Magazine asked 85 FBS players about drugs, playoffs, refs, gay teammates and much more. In exchange for honesty, we promised not to reveal any names or schools -- only secrets.
Who will win the 2009 Heisman trophy?
When the ballots were counted, it was a landslide -- for Colt McCoy. The Texas QB received 42 votes, followed by Florida QB Tim Tebow (20) and Oklahoma QB Sam Bradford (9). Four others were named more than once: USC safety Taylor Mays (4), Cal RB Jahvid Best (3), Oklahoma State WR Dez Bryant (2) and Ole Miss QB Jevan Snead (2).
What player would you pay to watch?
Of 19 players, one came up most often: Tebow, who pulled in 35 percent of the votes and was the only QB among the top three. The top five vote-getters: Tebow (30), Tennessee safety Eric Berry (9), OSU's Bryant (7), Texas' McCoy (5) and Florida LB Brandon Spikes (5).
To see much more -- who players think will win the BCS title, the most overrated and under programs, whether most players think one of their teammates is gay, views on drug use, partying and more -- you must be an ESPN Insider. Insider
Who will win the BCS title in January 2010?
Nearly half (40) of the respondents said the Gators will help Tebow win a third BCS title. The other faves: Texas (23), Oklahoma (10), USC (9).
What is the nation's best program?
By a whisker players named Florida 32-31 over USC. But by the same thin margin, Trojans' boss Pete Carroll was the top pick when players were asked who the smartest coach is. No. 2? Florida's Urban Meyer.
What is the nation's most overrated program?
More than half of those surveyed (46) named Notre Dame or Ohio State. And the winner, if that's the right word, is -- OSU, 24 to 22. Uh, congratulations, Coach Tressel!
Do any players on your team take steroids or other PEDs?
Of those surveyed, 55 percent said they know of at least one teammate taking PEDs; among non-BCS players, 53 percent answered yes; 58 percent of BCS players said yes.
Should drugs and alcohol on campus be a bigger NCAA concern?
Just say no. That's how 52 percent of players answered, with 47 percent saying the NCAA should pay more attention to the issue.
Should guns on campus be a bigger NCAA concern?
Yes -- 21 percent; no -- 67 percent. While guns were not a concern for most players, 57 percent of the players in the Big East were alarmed at the number of firearms around the team.
Were you ever offered money during recruiting?
Yes -- 3 percent; no -- 97 percent. Few players admit to cash offers, but many concede the problem exists. Some paused long enough to make us wonder. Answered one Pac-10 player, "No. Well -- no."
Should players be paid?
A scholarship is worth about $19K a year. It sounds like a lot until you realize the bowl teams in 2008 made 148 million in postseason profit alone. That's why 71 percent of players want to be paid.
Does the FBS need a playoff?
For the postseason, 75 percent wanted change. Only one conference liked the status quo, 60 percent-40 percent: the Pac-10, winner of one BCS title (USC, 2004) in 11 years.
Better OT format, college or pro?
College -- 99 percent; pro --1 percent. The lone fan of the NFL rules? A Pac-10 player: "I like that pressure. If you lose the toss, you have to make a play to survive."
What's the worst rule in college football?
More players are worried about being heard than hurt. Excessive celebration (22 percent) was the most hated penalty, edging horse-collar tackles (12 percent) and crown-of-the-helmet hits (11 percent).
Does replay work well?
They may not like every call, but 78 percent of those polled think the refs get it right in the end, with identical responses from BCS and non-BCS players.
Are the refs doing a good job?
Although 57 percent of ACC players see room for improvement, every other conference's players gave the men in black-and-white a vote of confidence. Overall, refs get a 71 percent approval rating.
Do you notice the cheerleaders at other schools?
An overwhelming 81 percent answered yes. Players singled out seven schools: Clemson, Cincinnati, Florida International, Louisville, South Florida, UCLA and their No. 1 -- Oregon.
How many times a week do you get hit on?
It's pretty good to be a college football player. On average, they're hit on 5.5 times every week. It's really good to be playing at a BCS school, where players get hit on 6.6 times a week. And it's really, really good to be a Pac-10 player, where that number is 10.2.
Should academic fraud be a bigger concern for the NCAA?
Yes -- 47 percent; no -- 51 percent. Both sides cited the Florida State scandal. Says one concerned player: "Look at what they're doing at FSU." Says one unconcerned player: "Look at what they're doing to FSU."
Do you have any gay teammates?
Almost half of those surveyed (49.4 percent, to be exact) said yes, they believe they have at least one gay teammate. In the Pac-10, 70 percent of those surveyed said yes.
Does the NCAA do enough to promote fair-hiring practices?
Even though only seven of the 120 FBS head coaches are African-American, the majority of players (61 percent) don't see a need to address minority hires.
Bruce Feldman is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine focusing on college football; you can check out his daily college football blog right here. Ryan Hockensmith is an editor with ESPN The Magazine focusing on college football and MMA.
Just say no. That's how 52 percent of players answered, with 47 percent saying the NCAA should pay more attention to the issue.
Should guns on campus be a bigger NCAA concern?
Yes -- 21 percent; no -- 67 percent. While guns were not a concern for most players, 57 percent of the players in the Big East were alarmed at the number of firearms around the team.
Were you ever offered money during recruiting?
Yes -- 3 percent; no -- 97 percent. Few players admit to cash offers, but many concede the problem exists. Some paused long enough to make us wonder. Answered one Pac-10 player, "No. Well -- no."
Should players be paid?
A scholarship is worth about $19K a year. It sounds like a lot until you realize the bowl teams in 2008 made 148 million in postseason profit alone. That's why 71 percent of players want to be paid.
Does the FBS need a playoff?
For the postseason, 75 percent wanted change. Only one conference liked the status quo, 60 percent-40 percent: the Pac-10, winner of one BCS title (USC, 2004) in 11 years.
Better OT format, college or pro?
College -- 99 percent; pro --1 percent. The lone fan of the NFL rules? A Pac-10 player: "I like that pressure. If you lose the toss, you have to make a play to survive."
What's the worst rule in college football?
More players are worried about being heard than hurt. Excessive celebration (22 percent) was the most hated penalty, edging horse-collar tackles (12 percent) and crown-of-the-helmet hits (11 percent).
Does replay work well?
They may not like every call, but 78 percent of those polled think the refs get it right in the end, with identical responses from BCS and non-BCS players.
Are the refs doing a good job?
Although 57 percent of ACC players see room for improvement, every other conference's players gave the men in black-and-white a vote of confidence. Overall, refs get a 71 percent approval rating.
Do you notice the cheerleaders at other schools?
An overwhelming 81 percent answered yes. Players singled out seven schools: Clemson, Cincinnati, Florida International, Louisville, South Florida, UCLA and their No. 1 -- Oregon.
How many times a week do you get hit on?
It's pretty good to be a college football player. On average, they're hit on 5.5 times every week. It's really good to be playing at a BCS school, where players get hit on 6.6 times a week. And it's really, really good to be a Pac-10 player, where that number is 10.2.
Should academic fraud be a bigger concern for the NCAA?
Yes -- 47 percent; no -- 51 percent. Both sides cited the Florida State scandal. Says one concerned player: "Look at what they're doing at FSU." Says one unconcerned player: "Look at what they're doing to FSU."
Do you have any gay teammates?
Almost half of those surveyed (49.4 percent, to be exact) said yes, they believe they have at least one gay teammate. In the Pac-10, 70 percent of those surveyed said yes.
Does the NCAA do enough to promote fair-hiring practices?
Even though only seven of the 120 FBS head coaches are African-American, the majority of players (61 percent) don't see a need to address minority hires.
Bruce Feldman is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine focusing on college football; you can check out his daily college football blog right here. Ryan Hockensmith is an editor with ESPN The Magazine focusing on college football and MMA.
From: gypsypm5k is busier than a one-legged man in an ass ki... Oh, oh that's just bad form.
Date: 8/22/09 @ 2:47 PM
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the funny part is it says OSU is the most overrated program.
http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20090826/ARTICLES/908279978/1136?Title=Gators -have-become-dynasty
first game can't come soon enough!!
first game can't come soon enough!!
From: Dr Funk N Stein sounds like a 3 year old with a P.h.D. in Spaniards
Date: 8/27/09 @ 8:47 AM
128
in all fairness...Linda Lovelace built a dynasty by sucking dick.
So I dont see much difference.
So I dont see much difference.
Thursday night boys.
It's almost here.
It's almost here.
K-STATE!!!!!!
SLIPPERY ROCK!!!
This coming Saturday, I shall be in Husky Stadium, watching
(a) the Tigers win
(b) the Huskies lose
It will be a good day.
(a) the Tigers win
(b) the Huskies lose
It will be a good day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3U08FZ8SnU
watching this is better than sex. can't wait for saturday.
watching this is better than sex. can't wait for saturday.
Get ready for #4!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's that? 2 number 2s?
From: homerjay will take you around the universe and all the other places too
Date: 9/1/09 @ 9:23 PM
136
GO CATS!!!!
Christ! Huskers used to dominate, makes me sick!
Hopefully we are seeing a turn around with bo in charge.
GO BIG RED!
Hopefully we are seeing a turn around with bo in charge.
GO BIG RED!
Cyclooooooooooooooooones!
(hoping for 2 conference wins this season! looking at you CU and K State.)
(hoping for 2 conference wins this season! looking at you CU and K State.)
the KSU game is at Arrowhead.
I'm trying to get tickets to that.
I'm trying to get tickets to that.
Tonight it begins.
Both teams may suck but it is big time college football in prime time.
Bring it on.
Both teams may suck but it is big time college football in prime time.
Bring it on.
Going to the WMU - U of M game on Saturday. Hoping my Broncos can go into the Big House and get the upset.
Are they ever going to lose that lame-ass blue field.
Anyway, real big-time college football begins Saturday in the Georgia dome!
Anyway, real big-time college football begins Saturday in the Georgia dome!
Elite1484 said:
Going to the WMU - U of M game on Saturday. Hoping my Broncos can go into the Big House and get the upset.
Going to the WMU - U of M game on Saturday. Hoping my Broncos can go into the Big House and get the upset.
GTFO.
Seriously, Elite. Upsetting the Wolverines is something only really top-caliber teams like Appalachian State can do.
On the other hand, Go Maize and Blue!
Mainly so that you won't fire your coach and come looking to steal Les again.
On the other hand, Go Maize and Blue!
Mainly so that you won't fire your coach and come looking to steal Les again.
Big Ten predictions:
1. OSU- Terrell Pryor will help the Buckeyes to an undefeated big ten season. They could very well knock off USC at home and get to another BCS game. But the difference is this year they'll deserve it.
2. MSU- The dramatically improving Spartans return loads of starters on defense, get an upgrade at QB with Keith Nichol (transfer from OSU that was barely edged out by Bradford) and have a veteran O-line to open holes for several talented freshmen RB.
3. Iowa- A stout defense and a fantastic QB will ensure the best season the Hawkeyes have had in years. A weak d-line will handicap them significantly though in the run heavy Big Ten, and they’ll have to overachieve significantly to challenge the Spartans for 2nd place.
4. Penn State- Too few returning starters, questionable skill players, and a tough road schedule will make Joe Pa's last season unremarkable.
5. Illinois- They could put 3 guys in first round of the NFL draft, but this team is a paper tiger. For all their firepower on offense, they have a barely mediocre defense and awful special teams. They’ll average a ton of points, but so will every opponent they face. 3 guys do not a big ten champ make.
6. Wisconsin- A bland 7-5 season awaits this underachieving program, and a job might open up if Bielema doesnt get them to a bowl game.
7. U of M- RichRod needs more time to install his system, but at the very least they’ll be much improved. They don’t have to worry about another App State type game this year, (apologies to Elite84 and his broncos) but they’ll still be outmatched by the top 4 in the league.
8. Northwestern- Pat Fitzgerald is the most underrated coach in football. His bottom of the barrel talent is consistently overachieves and gives the rest of the league fits. But they lost a lot of athletes last year. Their athletic QB will keep them competitive though.
9. Purdue- if new coach Danny Hope has this team playing good enough to avoid being the worst in the league, consider it a success for the Boilermakers this year.
10. Minnesota- Things Minny has going for it: They aren’t Indiana. Prince is from there. Their shiny new outdoor stadium will have Gopher fans everywhere buying SUV’s and praying for global warming.
11. Indiana- Basketball wont start soon enough.
1. OSU- Terrell Pryor will help the Buckeyes to an undefeated big ten season. They could very well knock off USC at home and get to another BCS game. But the difference is this year they'll deserve it.
2. MSU- The dramatically improving Spartans return loads of starters on defense, get an upgrade at QB with Keith Nichol (transfer from OSU that was barely edged out by Bradford) and have a veteran O-line to open holes for several talented freshmen RB.
3. Iowa- A stout defense and a fantastic QB will ensure the best season the Hawkeyes have had in years. A weak d-line will handicap them significantly though in the run heavy Big Ten, and they’ll have to overachieve significantly to challenge the Spartans for 2nd place.
4. Penn State- Too few returning starters, questionable skill players, and a tough road schedule will make Joe Pa's last season unremarkable.
5. Illinois- They could put 3 guys in first round of the NFL draft, but this team is a paper tiger. For all their firepower on offense, they have a barely mediocre defense and awful special teams. They’ll average a ton of points, but so will every opponent they face. 3 guys do not a big ten champ make.
6. Wisconsin- A bland 7-5 season awaits this underachieving program, and a job might open up if Bielema doesnt get them to a bowl game.
7. U of M- RichRod needs more time to install his system, but at the very least they’ll be much improved. They don’t have to worry about another App State type game this year, (apologies to Elite84 and his broncos) but they’ll still be outmatched by the top 4 in the league.
8. Northwestern- Pat Fitzgerald is the most underrated coach in football. His bottom of the barrel talent is consistently overachieves and gives the rest of the league fits. But they lost a lot of athletes last year. Their athletic QB will keep them competitive though.
9. Purdue- if new coach Danny Hope has this team playing good enough to avoid being the worst in the league, consider it a success for the Boilermakers this year.
10. Minnesota- Things Minny has going for it: They aren’t Indiana. Prince is from there. Their shiny new outdoor stadium will have Gopher fans everywhere buying SUV’s and praying for global warming.
11. Indiana- Basketball wont start soon enough.
Real college football starts tonight, haters. Take your SEC goggles off. Oregon is most definitely for real. This game should be damn good.
Seriously, Elite. Upsetting the Wolverines is something only really top-caliber teams like Appalachian State can do.
Broncos knocked off Illinois last year at Ford Field.
We may not be a BCS conference, but you can't hate on someone for having school pride.
it would make my year if Western knocked off Michigan.
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